They start young,,,,,,,,,,,James like the idea of riding down the stairs from the get go. I could not get him to stop. The skiing was not what i wanted but still good,,, the Groom needs to come. I also got one of my tele set ups ready to go so I can start up skiing and try to find some powder stashes. Not going to bet my life on it. I mayski up and hitch hike down and then ski back up.. Bazaro!!